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In Elftown, everyone can do something to help or contribute to the community. You can create wiki-pages that explain how to draw dragons, or pages for meeting like-minded people. Everyone can report members that don't follow the uploading art rules or who just aren't behaving. Check out Elftown - Contribution and Contribute for all the various ways in which you can help our community.

But some people want - and have the time - to help in bigger ways; by maintaining official Competitions, or running projects like the ECM, or even helping with some of the features on Main Street. Of course, if we spot people like that ourselves then we're happy to let them join our ranks without them having to apply. But there are only a few of us, and many of us are busy doing all the fore-mentioned things! So if you have the time, and really want to help out, then this page is here to help you get our attention, and to help us find the people who are prepared to dedicate lots of their time to running Elftown without any reward!


Here is your chance to get the power, badges and all other fancy stuff that really shouldn't be the reason for applying to the crew!

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What you need to do


1) You need a good general knowledge of Elftown. If you can't handle almost everything about forums, polls, wiki-pages and don't know the Elftown rules very well, then don't apply yet.
- If you don't know at least most of the pseudo HTML, don't apply.
- If you don't know how to use the forums, don't apply.
- If you're not planning on using the forums, don't apply.
- If you're not sure of the rules, don't apply.

2) You need to be able to read and write English well.
- Dun typ lyke dis
- We don't require perfect English, but you have to at least be able to use legible English that others can easily understand.

3) Your goals for Elftown should agree with Elftown's. If you want to go berserk on everyone who looks ugly, then don't apply!
- Crew members have to be at least somewhat nice and professional.
- Crew members need to be able to keep a cool control over their emotions during discussions.
- Crew members should be able to make unbiased decisions without putting their friends' first in situations.

4) You should have proven yourself. As written above, you don't need any permission to do most stuff here on Elftown. Even if you only have created the Big Boobs Dragon Competition, are running the forum "Medieval fencing" that no one uses and have written a subpar report, it's better than someone who just says they can do all this, but never has.
- Write in forums! Use them, if only to comment on Main Street news and say hello.
- Enter contests, official or non-official.
- Be nice and helpful to other members; answer questions they may ask on wiki-pages.
- Create wiki-pages, show that you know how to use the site's HTML.

5) You should explain what you will do as a member of the crew and for how long. Note: We don't want newbies that get all excited by Elftown for a month and then will get tired of it. Therefore, people who have been for a long time, are generally better.
- We want to know what you can bring to the Elftown Crew that we don't have currently.
- We want to know what you're good at, your talents, and what you think you'd be best at.
- We want to know what official jobs you think we should give you.
- Do NOT try to apply to be one of the following: Guards, Wiki Bosses, Mayor, ViceMayor or Magicians!
  - We appreciate your enthusiasm and desire to help out, but the above positions are only held by members who are already on the Crew and have earned a considerable amount of trust in addition to their trained experience.


6) You should be able to get along with the sullen assholes in the crew, and have a great patience with people.
- The Council doesn't really like suck ups.
- No one likes assholes, narcissists or intolerable people.
- This doesn't mean you have to be friends with or even like everyone, just be able to get along regardless.
- Patience is a virtue that you must possess.



7) You should think this is fun!

8) If you can come up with an eighth point, it shows that you have ideas. We like ideas! If you can be someone with ideas and who will carry them out then you're set.
- Ideas are good!
- However, people who can take an idea and put it on a page are even better.

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Deadline


There is no deadline! This goes on forever and good applications get picked at any time. If you aren't chosen, that can be because we're not so sure about you or that we just don't need more help right now. However, we can change our minds if you help us (see Sorting, below).

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Sorting and tips


Your application will be put in one of the three sections: high, medium or low.

Low means your application and/or membership needs a lot of improvement before we can consider you.
What to do: Try to fulfill the requirements listed above, correct your spelling and make sure you are following the Uploading Art Rules.

Medium means your application is OK in the basics, but there could be things you can improve.
What to do: Think of making your application more interesting, contributing to the community, participating in the forums or reporting UAR-violators. Members with a note have a shot at 'high' if they follow what the note says.

High is the short-list from which we pick new crew members. This is a slow process because crew newbies need someone to mentor them and something to do (otherwise they might get confused or bored and leave).
What to do: Look around for places and projects that need more crew love, or think of new things the crew should take care of (and why). Hang out in the Elftown, {something} forums (Newbie Questions, Suggestions etc.). Volunteer to help wherever you can be helpful. And, of course, don't be shy to update and improve your application page - but leave a note on this page if you do, so we can re-evaluate your application! :)

General guidelines
Remember that the amount of text does not making something better. However showing proper (British) English, your interests and your work on Elftown does. Be clear and concise; try to stand out from the other applicants.

Be actives on the wiki, in forums or as a patroller. Show off your efforts in making Elftown better will help to make you stand out.

We will not explain what exactly is wrong with an application if it is missing something, if we have something to say then you'll hear from us. Also, please do not message Crew members asking for an opening in a position; you may however ask them what the work they do entails.


If your house is inactive for forty (40) days or more your application will be moved to inactive member applications.

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Joined


Examples of successful applications:

[Nioniel] - A Phoenix Rising for Council!
[Chel.] - Woohoo! Chel for Crew!
[Flisky] - Just wanna help
[Thunder Cid] - Thunder Cid for the Crew
[wicked fae mage] - wicked fae mage's resume
[Rice] - Keyser's Crew Application
[Lord Josmar] - Lord Josmar's Bid for Dominion
[Ravendust] - Raven's Crew Campaign
[Stephen] - Stephen for Council


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Sorted



High


Medium
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Low
[Lakayana] - amazing campaign
[kians mummy] - sammie h for crew -Big update: 2013-03-19


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How to apply?


Add the link to your campaign-wiki-page at the bottom of the page!

Example: [Hedda] - hedda for mayor


[The Black Goat] - Nox for Crew and Council
[Sagacious Turkey] - That Turkey Guy for Retired Crew


Username (or number or email):

Password:

2005-07-06 [Death's Die-Ary]: hello

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: hello!

2005-07-07 [Janouk]: However, I keep thinking this is another first of april joke :p

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: haha yeah, somehow I thought that too :P but that one was about 'a harsh and rude new pack of guards'

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: this one sounds more 'serious', and since I hope the one which made this page knows that a joke isn't funny after 1 time...

2005-07-07 [Zab]: hm...should I try to apply? Nah...I´ll wait and see, not sure I could be much help anyway. ::grin::

2005-07-07 [Leara]: I filled out a thing last night for a laugh, lol. Dunno if I want to put it up though, I was in idiot-mode.

2005-07-07 [Zab]: well, make a new or change it and then put it up?

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: I indeed don't really think that an idiotic campaign would be that smart ;)

2005-07-07 [Zab]: well, that depends on if you want to succeed or not -_^

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: well, wouldn't it be a waste of time if you wrote a whole thing without wanting to really become crew member..? there are better things to waste your time on ^^

2005-07-07 [Zab]: I know...that´s the only thing that stopped me to apply..::grin:: I would be a perfect, let´s say Guard, if I only knewed what I was supposed to do...or how ET actually works...or could make decisions without nerviosly ask 334 person first...

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: aren't you that long here on elftown then?

2005-07-07 [Leara]: As I said...I filled it out for a laugh.

2005-07-07 [Zab]: I´ve been here for more than a year ><...I think we stopped talking about your apply specific for a while ago, Leara...so don´t feel offended or anything. ^_-

2005-07-07 [Leara]: Offended for what? Basically replying to what you guys said...that doesn't make sense.

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: but [Zab], what don't you understand about how elftown works then?

2005-07-07 [Zab]: ::shrugs:: Leara: just wanted to make sure you didn´t got upset. Slavork: Well..eh..I guess it´s most about rules and stuff. I mean I can make wiki´s and polls and forums...but if someone asks ''is this image ok?' I just can´t answer..not that I should, anyway.

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: as long as it's image is made by himself, or given permission by the owner it's ok..

2005-07-07 [Zab]: yeah...::shrugs:: I know enough to keep my self out of trouble..ehm..I´m just a bit too helpful sometimes...::blush and murmbles to myself:: must remember not to answer on questions directed to the guards...ehm..

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: well, it's not bad to help anyone if they ask you a question that normally would be asked to a guard, I also helped wance someone who didn't knew how to put up more than one picture in his description and I ain't a guard ^^

2005-07-07 [Zab]: uhm...yeah...but I answeres on the guard-wiki....>< And I got told off for it...so I´ll just stay away for a while...

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: aaah.. ok..

2005-07-07 [Zab]: this is the part you should say "oh! That wasn´t smart you know, but they´ll forget and forgive you". ::lol:: Well, just a mistake.

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: oh! That wasn´t smart you know, but they´ll forget and forgive you!!

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: ok now?

2005-07-07 [Zab]: ::grin:: No idea....thank you..

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: you're very welcome ^^

2005-07-07 [Zab]: ::lol:: ok...I think I´ll leave..

2005-07-07 [Charybdis]: I was wondering... is this a sort of generic crew-application, where Candidate X gets in first and is assigned specific responsibilities afterwards? O_o

2005-07-07 [Zab]: I just think it´s like a list were they pic the best suited..or they are just trying to make us all shut up -_^

2005-07-07 [Janouk]: O well...

2005-07-07 [Teufelsweib]: like they said here above, this community is growing fast and so they need more people that can watch over it all

2005-07-07 [Charybdis]: Well, yes, but I want to know how it works, exactly :)

2005-07-07 [Nita]: [Charybdis]: Yes, probably. But if you can find something helpful to do yourself, it's even better! :)

2005-07-07 [Charybdis]: Okay! Thanks for clarifying :)

2005-07-07 [Erestor]: I've added my application now, I hope it is applicable.

2005-07-07 [Ihsahn]: nice!

2005-07-07 [prisoner#81378]: Too bad I know nothing of forums...=/ ah well....

2005-07-07 [ally]: The forums here aren't that hard to understand. And once you get used to them they seem better than the other forums on the net </personal opinion shared by others>

2005-07-07 [prisoner#81378]: lol...thanks....=)

2005-07-07 [ally]: Don't say thanks: get your ass to the forums :p

2005-07-07 [Ihsahn]: lol

2005-07-08 [Alice in Darkland]: really good campaign

2005-07-08 [shotokan_gal]: Argh I avoided the forums for as long as possible until I was forcing into using them ;) If I'd originally been told to start with the 'skip all' button things would've been much easier must say.

2005-07-08 [Ihsahn]: I was never told that but I figured it out

2005-07-08 [shotokan_gal]: Well, with the other buttons, and the way you can open whole threads, and how a message dissapears off the list when you've read it if there's enough new ones (i.e. when you join a forum) confuzzled me for quite a bit, so I couldn't be bothered at the time, being a non-knowledgable et-newbie back then too.

2005-07-08 [Vader]: So who's gonna go through all these campaigns and decide who is in and who isnt?

2005-07-08 [Sunrose]: [Hedda] of course..

2005-07-09 [Jimbaliah]: I applied!

2005-07-09 [Vader]: Ah, kinda obvious when I think about it.......:s

2005-07-09 [Zab]: hm..maybe I should apply...just so you know what you will miss..

2005-07-09 [One With Nothing]: I just realized something......I'm obnoxious ^ ^.

2005-07-09 [Zab]: and that is?

2005-07-09 [Nita]: Don't worry, [One With Nothing], you're no longer obnoxious ;)

2005-07-09 [Ultiem]: i wonder, if he will accept my help?

2005-07-10 [Khayman]: all any of us can do is wonder :p but the application was fun ;)

2005-07-10 [Morrigon]: yeah, it seemed odd though, felt like I was bragging about myself >.<

2005-07-10 [One With Nothing]: Don't feel odd =). I think it is the goal here... Just brag about yourself as much as possible, without making a fool of yourself ^ ^.

2005-07-10 [Zab]: I really feel to apply...but I don´t want to be a crew, when I think about it..Oo I´ll just make a fool of myself if I became one..

2005-07-10 [Charybdis]: Why would you make a fool of yourself? You're very sensible ^_^

2005-07-10 [Zab]: ::lol:: Sure! ...er.. thanks..

2005-07-11 [Hedda]: Whiteknight1313 Dueling Arena isn't an application campaign, and is therefore remove.

2005-07-11 [Pyro Mac]: Im applying ^^

2005-07-11 [Silver Phantoms]: hehe, I would, but my abilites go about as far as poetry, good luck peeps!

2005-07-11 [shotokan_gal]: Hmm theman for Elftown Crew is an empty page. Whoever posted it may want to change that.

2005-07-11 [$T0®M]: that would be [bornacountryboy]

2005-07-11 [One With Nothing]: I would just like to say, that person should win! The most Stylish, Articulate, and just Creative piece of work I have ever seen in a wiki....Marvelous really...I think everyone should read it... SKULLHEAD's Campaign

2005-07-11 [Zab]: Oh, of corse! I see he´ll soon be mayor...

2005-07-11 [Nita]: Please add your application links at the end of the list, not in the middle of it. Thanks in advance :)

2005-07-11 [Morrigon]: it might also be a good idea to start watching the page after you apply?

2005-07-11 [Kitten Of The Night]: when do we find out if add to the crew

2005-07-11 [Zab]: probably when they finds out that they want you. It´s a neverending thing as far as I know, no dates. I don´t think they´ll chose X numbers new crew-people a month anyway ><

2005-07-11 [Morrigon]: you know who else needs help. the people at Elfwood. They're so swamped I feel bad

2005-07-11 [Zab]: ...should´ve helped. If they let me. And if I actually had an account there..

2005-07-11 [Charybdis]: I think one of the things barring them from finding new mods is that many EW artists are either too young to apply or too busy with school or profession...

2005-07-12 [Zab]: I´m very busy, that´s why I´m here all the time..::lol:: but I see your point.

2005-07-12 [shotokan_gal]: As well as the rules being quite scrict at elfwood, so apparantly the moderators test is fairly difficult (i.e. so potential moderators will be able to moderate effectively).

2005-07-12 [Zab]: don´t know anything abour ew, actually. Some day I might try for an account, but I can´t now.

2005-07-12 [Charybdis]: That too... they can't lower their standards. // Why not?

2005-07-12 [Zab]: Mostly because I dont have any scanner, and I don´t want to send in my computerart-crap...><

2005-07-12 [Charybdis]: O_o The pictures in your house aren't crap

2005-07-12 [Zab]: Yes ><. But thanks anyway.

2005-07-13 [EmeraldGrizzly]: I don't know why, but my campaign link isn't working right now... but it is a real wiki.

2005-07-13 [Charybdis]: That's odd... are you sure that you got the page name right?

2005-07-13 [True, plain and simple]: The wiki-page link above yours had an error. Fixed now.

2005-07-13 [Shadow-ofDeath]: Alright, I wish everyone luck. Go team (and future members of the team).

2005-07-13 [Roseblade Arinaeous Daedrom]: Hey, I believe that since [Hedda] said that he wanted to be the mayor, let him be mayor. After all, he did create this place; be grateful! Ladies and gentlemen, elves and demons, fellow users of Elftown; lend me your ears! Support the rightful mayor of ET!     Oh, and good luck to everybody...

2005-07-13 [Nightshadow]: Well...it's not exactly a democracy, anyway. ;)

2005-07-13 [Pyro Mac]: I thought that was a joke?

2005-07-13 [Roseblade Arinaeous Daedrom]: Say what? I know I am gonna sound really stupid in asking this, but what form of "government" do we have? (i.e. democracy, autocracy, monarchy, communism, dictatorship, etc.)?

2005-07-13 [Nightshadow]: Dictatorship all the way, baby. 8) It works well for the site, keeps things sane and on track.

2005-07-13 [Pyro Mac]: >...umm...no idea...lol

2005-07-13 [Zab]: nothing wrong with dictatorsship, as long as the dictator is nice ><;

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: like Stalin?

2005-07-13 [Zab]: erhm..I just suck in history. I know I should know a lot of him but I have no idea...

2005-07-13 [Nightshadow]: He's a bad, bad man. *g*

2005-07-13 [Zab]: ok..not like him, then..

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: ok ok, like mr. Castro? ;)

2005-07-13 [Zab]: ....please don´t do this to me...><

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: ahw COME ON, you know Che Guevara right?

2005-07-13 [Zab]: ...yeah..a little...very little..

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: he was the second man after Fidel Castro ... that was a real oldschool communistic leader ;)

2005-07-13 [Zab]: ok...

2005-07-13 [EmeraldGrizzly]: thank for fixin the link.

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: :p Elftown Academy

2005-07-13 [ally]: Before this was here ET was somethink like the personal monarchy in Hellenistic Greece ^^ Only we have a mayor instead of a king.

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: hehehe, like red roses slaves ... one to rule us all with coockies and beer ;)

2005-07-13 [ally]: Well actually it was a monarchy where the king ruled with the help of his close friends. Then who rules it? [redheadedterror] or you? It says you but it also says you're her slave *is confused*

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: she rules ;), I'm her nr 1 slave :p ... I'm testing the beer and stuff

2005-07-13 [ally]: But it says "heerscht" next to your name? Hehe what kind of beer?

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: hehehe, witch means "rules" ... I made the wiki ... hmm, okay, maby I should change that.... and I like the Thechie beer!!! and the Dutch beer like Amstel and Heiniken ;)

2005-07-13 [ally]: Yes so if you rule you're the ruler and not the slave :p. *chuckles* That's not beer!

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: its the best beer :o

2005-07-13 [ally]: No it's not. It's yellow water :p

2005-07-13 [$T0®M]: hahahaha, riiiiight beer lovers ...

2005-07-13 [Jay Ladlehaus]: ha, you should change it to yellow fizzy beer lovers ;)

2005-07-13 [ally]: heehee *agrees*

2005-07-14 [Roseblade Arinaeous Daedrom]: Nice... so we got beer (sort of), cookies, and... I suppose that I am bringing the Cubans (cigars).lol

2005-07-14 [$T0®M]: btw, are there already people who've been made crew member?

2005-07-14 [M_Sinner]: Hey, everyone! Vote for Sine! (TM) Banner Now Included

2005-07-14 [Khayman]: oh my, the list has more than doubled since I applied :p wow

2005-07-14 [Jay Ladlehaus]: Damn, no Cubans for us Americans. Bush administration charges $1700 a doobie if you're caught with one :(

2005-07-14 [True, plain and simple]: Didn't you know Fidel puts mind-controlling agents in them? ;)

2005-07-14 [Jay Ladlehaus]: oh, that's why. I was wondering :P

2005-07-14 [True, plain and simple]: Or they might secretly be portable missiles..So once you light up..Boom. Crisis all over again. :P

2005-07-14 [Khayman]: lol

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: hey tps your in the council when are they picking people for the crew

2005-07-14 [True, plain and simple]: When we feel like it? We could decide not to pick anyone if we realised we didn't need more people after all, I suppose. There's no set time for us to pick any number of people anyway.

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: yes i know that and what was with yestrday.. told us to look at the news but there was none..

2005-07-14 [$T0®M]: indeed, you people r screwing up all the time ;)

2005-07-14 [Charybdis]: There was news, the blurb about ASCII art. Even though it's been up for a few days, perhaps someone felt it was time to draw more attention to it? *shrugs*

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: well i only read the news if its something i need to read

2005-07-14 [bluefarie]: well, i don't know about anyone else...but, i wrote quite a few reports about that...so, maybe that is why...?

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: becuse i we don't read or pics??

2005-07-14 [shotokan_gal]: But how would you know if the news is something that does or doesn't concern you until after you've read it? :)

2005-07-14 [$T0®M]: by looking at the title

2005-07-14 [shotokan_gal]: True. Though if the title is 'update on the uploading art rules' I hardly see how it doesn't effect everyone. Since they don't know the update until they read it surely?

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: well that why i know ever one reads them when why frist strat before the sign up they should have them and make the agree to them

2005-07-14 [Charybdis]: Not many read the rules in that case either... they just scroll down, click "I Agree" and keep going.

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: well they should make a thing see how long its takes to read the whle thing and they should not be able to click to go on till the time has gone by

2005-07-14 [shotokan_gal]: Well, additions to the rules are made sometimes, only after people have joined. There need to be ways to inform the old members of such things too.

2005-07-14 [Kitten Of The Night]: yes i know that im just saying that somthing they can do

2005-07-14 [shotokan_gal]: Ah ok. They could then I guess. Of course it's up to the crew, who's ranks we're all trying to join through this wiki ;)

2005-07-14 [Charybdis]: lol

2005-07-15 [Dil*]: hmmm..I wonder if [Kaimee] will try this out..or is she too busy-ish?

2005-07-15 [Charybdis]: Isn't she already a part of the crew? O_o

2005-07-15 [ally]: Yes she is

2005-07-16 [threelade]: Just wondering, [Kitten Of The Night] how long would it take you to read the rules? I personaly read an average book of about 400 to 500 pages per day so if it takes me a few seconds to read the rules and you a few mins. How do you set a time limit?

2005-07-16 [Dil*]: damn [Kaimee]! XD

2005-07-16 [Kaimee]: You didn't notice? :O I'm hurt... :P

2005-07-16 [Dil*]: haha...but I'm not quite sure what is counted as crew..would 'guard' count??

2005-07-16 [Dil*]: Oh council will definately be, my bad XD

2005-07-16 [Kaimee]: Any of them are counted as crew I do believe :)

2005-07-16 [shotokan_gal]: Oh look who's moved his app. to the top of the list *rolls eyes*

2005-07-16 [Nita]: Well, that's a great place to hide it ;)

2005-07-16 [Dil*]: bleh, hey...would I be already counted as crew then? o.o

2005-07-17 [Nita]: Well, originally "crew" is what we call the Council, so, unlike [Kaimee], you can still get deepeer into the administration :)

2005-07-17 [Morrigon]: dun dun dunnnn

2005-07-17 [Dil*]: oooo okay thanks.

2005-07-17 [donezo]: uuuh i know alot about elftown,but there is a crack in my knowlegde,i still dont know about forums

2005-07-17 [Zab]: then learn! -.^

2005-07-17 [donezo]: rofl i guess i can try but i know what forums do and all but i dont know everything about forums like how do i make my own,how do i access my own and stuff like that

2005-07-17 [Zab]: I don´t know thet either...I´ll just learnt how to write in them..::lol::

2005-07-17 [donezo]: but then how did you become part of the crew?and if i make a crew application thing,why would they pick me?

2005-07-17 [Zab]: I´m not a part of the crew..hmm..shouldn´t answer here either, I guess...that´s your job to tell them why they should pic you! -.^

2005-07-17 [donezo]: well i have 2 examples (wierd examples) that im good with elftown and good with english

2005-07-17 [Zab]: Not up to me to decide anyway..but learn about forums and apply..

2005-07-17 [donezo]: i plan on it,and i know people who will support me (you probably wotn cuz you barely know me) but there are about 10 people out there who will support

2005-07-17 [Zab]: sure, try.

2005-07-17 [donezo]: well,besides the forum,i have a great general knowledge of elftown,and my 2 wikis tell that i know good english (my primary language ofcourse)

2005-07-17 [Zab]: ehm..primary language..I don´t know the word primary...?

2005-07-17 [donezo]: uh huh......right......well anyways i should make a poll becuz i am not sure if i should even try or not and because the poll that i have now totally and completly sucks

2005-07-17 [Zab]: Do you mind telling me what the word 'primary' mean? I honestly don´t know...yeah, sure make a poll. But you have a lot of images in your house that´ve been removed by the guards, maybe you should re-read the uploading art rules first?

2005-07-17 [donezo]: well that was before they said get rid of your text images so yea

2005-07-17 [Charybdis]: 'Primary' can mean first, most important, main, central...

2005-07-17 [Zab]: ok, thanks Char.^_^ then I s'pose swedish is my primary language..

2005-07-17 [donezo]: yeppers

2005-07-17 [Zab]: okie.

2005-07-17 [donezo]: alright back to the whole me trying a campaign thing

2005-07-17 [donezo]: what would i try to become?

2005-07-17 [Zab]: don´t ask me, ask yourself, write an apply and hope.

2005-07-17 [donezo]: hmmm i know there is no chance for council.....well maybe

2005-07-17 [Charybdis]: You know, there's not much of a chance anyway if you don't apply :)

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